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[mia] · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject:

I was joking! You don't have to blush... Razz

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Romans 7:18-8:2

pianofreak · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject:

oh, well then - is there a way to unblush then? lol.
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anon1 · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject:

Lets drag this thread back on topic, kids.
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pianofreak · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject:

ok then - girls rock, boys are evil....so let's throw rocks at the boys? haha, That was lame.
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[mia] · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject:

All the little boys were scared off (by me).
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"For I know that nothing good dwells in me...for I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand... Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! ... There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death."

Romans 7:18-8:2

PersuasiveLittleMonkey · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject:

wow...I'm totally going to have to remember this one!! That's good...

but if this is a battle of logic, I've a question for you:

how did you decide that boys are evil?

they claim we are evil with their whole little money thing, and they said that we are the lesser ones...

but that means were the lesser beings, not the lesser evil...

I need the logic on boys being evil

('cause I like 'em Wink

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[mia] · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject:

What is it with us girls not being able to resist guys? We seriously need a crash course in how NOT to puff up guys' egos!!!
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"For I know that nothing good dwells in me...for I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand... Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! ... There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death."

Romans 7:18-8:2

ScribblinScribe · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 661 Location: My office

It's common knowledge that mankind is evil. All of them. So if girls are lesser than boys (note...the boys didn't say lesser what), they also must be a lesser evil. Very simple.

Given:

Girls=evil (derived in GtC's formula)

and

Boys > girls (stated by GtC)

we have:

Boys > evil

Which means that boys are more than evil.

Edit: Olivia, would you like me to offer that course?

Note: Once again, the logic shown in this post is simply the derivitive of logic employed by those > I and has no bearing upon my actual sentiments.
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[mia] · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject:

Still ... they're so CUTE. And everybody loves a bad boy. Embarassed

Edit: I would love for you to offer that course, Abigail.
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"For I know that nothing good dwells in me...for I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand... Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! ... There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death."

Romans 7:18-8:2

nayrb · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject:

Have you heard of Godel's imcompleteness theorem? Of course not, otherwise you would not have started this thread. You see, his theorem states that within a system of axioms and rules, there are some statements that cannot be proven true or false, even if it is true or likewise false. You are trying to apply logic to a statement we cannot prove. Y'see, if we were to say the "girls are evil and the proof of this statement exists" we could easily show this to be true, if we showed the proof. Now if we were to say, "boys are evil and this statement's proof does not exists," we cannot show it is true, nor false. Because if it were true, as we could show by a proof that it is so, it would be contradictory because we couldn't have a proof. If we say it is false, then a proof must exist of the statement, because that is the result of negating the statement. However, if a proof must exist, and we showed that is false (i.e. no proof for the statement exists), we now have a contradiction. It is impossible to show if the statement is either false or true.

So it is only logical to concluded that girls can be shown to be evil, and we can't prove boys are.

Now if you were to say evilness is only 0.5 evil, and girls are only 0.23 girls, and boys and concluded that boys are 0.5 * 0.45 = 0.225 evil whereas girls are 0.23 * 0.5 = 0.115 evil, and so 0.225 > 0.115 thus boys are eviler, you'd be dealing with fuzzy logic. However, I fear you are on the border already.
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ScribblinScribe · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 661 Location: My office

Ah, my friend. You have hit on something.

Please note: I am only trying to prove that as long as *certain* boys hold *certain* statements as true, they will have to accept *certain* logical conclusions from those statements.

Remember my use of the powerful little word: IF.
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nayrb · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject:

"Boys > evil"

That's a bogus statement. Boys has four letters and evil has four as well, and we know 4 > 4 is false. I'm just following the logical implications of such a statement.

You must see the inconsistancy and realize that if girls=evil, you cannot prove or disprove that boys are eviler.
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ScribblinScribe · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 661 Location: My office

By that logic, how can boys > girls?

Consistency, my boy.
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anon1 · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject:

nayrb · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject:

You don't get it?

Boys starts with b and girls starts with g, and we know b is before g in the alphabet, so b > g. Likewise, boys comes before girls (ever looked in a dictionary?) and so boys > girls.

And I'm pointing out inconsistency. That's part of my whole point.
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ScribblinScribe · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 661 Location: My office

Amen. You are pointing out the same inconsistency that I am. Kudos to you. You have betrayed the boys. *pat, pat*

I did not invent those two statements:

Boys > girls
girls=evil

Our dear male moderator invented them.

Now, if we accept that those are true...my logic follows. If we deny my logic, those must not be true.

Either way, I win. Wink

As far as your last argument, your assumption was an interesting one. You assumed that the number of letters/digits in a word determines the value of the word.

By this logic you would argue that 00000 > 1111.
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nayrb · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject:

No, you see, as I pointed out in my first post, according to Godel's theorem on imcompleteness, the inconsistency of the statements means we cannot prove boys are evil.

ScribblinScribe · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 661 Location: My office

But 5 zeros in a row still = 0, which is considerably less than 1111.
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nayrb · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject:

But an infinite number of 0s in row = 0, which is considerably greater than 1111.

Your logic is quite inconsistant.
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